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#1 scythekain

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:37 PM

View Postgoatomatic, on 15 November 2011 - 08:37 PM, said:

Just found this thread...

http://forum.cyanoge...partition-size/

Apparently there is only a 170mb partition for the data/data section. So even though there is more space in internal memory, it won't be used. The solution seems to be, just move your apps to the sd card. Not great...

Edit: Yep, here's something else,

http://code.google.c...ort=-id&id=4600

hope this helps someone else, cause this has been driving me crazy!

Is there any plan to release a PIT file for CM7 to better utilize the internal SD card?  Since they are using data/data for apps, it leaves about 1.8 GB of space on the SD card data partition that we cannot utilize.

And seriously... Anyone that is having FC problems with CM7, uninstall and/or move to SD.  It will solve your problems.

EDIT:

Looks like the latest nightly did change the path for the installation.  I now have ~280 MB of apps installed with no ill side effects.  This is great, I can use my widgets on the homescreen again!

Edited by scythekain, 13 December 2011 - 10:02 PM.


#2 theyurtingyeti

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 02:31 AM

View Postscythekain, on 13 December 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

Is there any plan to release a PIT file for CM7 to better utilize the internal SD card?  Since they are using data/data for apps, it leaves about 1.8 GB of space on the SD card data partition that we cannot utilize.

And seriously... Anyone that is having FC problems with CM7, uninstall and/or move to SD.  It will solve your problems.

EDIT:

Looks like the latest nightly did change the path for the installation.  I now have ~280 MB of apps installed with no ill side effects.  This is great, I can use my widgets on the homescreen again!

What nightly are you on? I'm on #181, and I'm seeing something similar but different to the 1st link goatomatic posted... some numbers don't match?

/dev/mtdblock6  172.0M 153.6M 18.4M 89% /datadata <-- this matches goatomatic's first link and suggests that I am near the FC threshold.

However, based on your edit I went to Manage Applications>All and saw that I had 201MB installed with 1.8G total... this matches the following:
/dev/mmc/blk0p2  1.8G 200.9M 1.66G 11% /data

So my questions are these:
1) What is stored in /datadata, and am I in danger of FC issues?
2) What is stored in /data... it looks like I have mad space

For additional information that may or may not affect this, I am also running the Glitch v13 RC kernel

UPDATE: I had the issue (low space available) and I was able to confirm the >90% problem. However, it appears that the physical apps are stored in ...blk0p2 while the datadata (app data files) is stored in ...mtdblock6.

My assumption is that moving apps to the SD card will also move the cache as well. Is there an easy way to see what apps have the largest cache without having to select each one individually? Perhaps an App to do the work for me :)

Update2: I used 1-Tap cleaner to look at the data stored for all of my apps... what's confusing to me is that that number seems to only be 25-50 MB which is no where near to 90% of 172 MB. What else is stored in /datadata?

Edited by theyurtingyeti, 14 December 2011 - 10:02 PM.


#3 scythekain

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 04:52 PM

View Posttheyurtingyeti, on 14 December 2011 - 02:31 AM, said:

What nightly are you on? I'm on #181, and I'm seeing something similar but different to the 1st link goatomatic posted... some numbers don't match?

That's from Stable when they used data/data for app storage.

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/dev/mtdblock6  172.0M 153.6M 18.4M 89% /datadata <-- this matches goatomatic's first link and suggests that I am near the FC threshold.

From what I've seen in the #181 we shouldn't have this problem anymore.  (I'm running #181 btw, for the most part it has been super stable.  Was bragging about a 6 day uptime yesterday when ATT decided to **** a brick and lost network connectivity, forcing a reboot)

BUT, It did give me a "Storage nearing capacity" warning yesterday with 600 MB of apps installed.  I moved the biggest offenders to SD (3 EA Angry Birds games, Kindle, etc.. most were 20MB or more a piece) and the warning went away.  Makes me wonder the same thing as you, it must still be storing SOMETHING in data/data, because I still had plenty of app storage space left.


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However, based on your edit I went to Manage Applications>All and saw that I had 201MB installed with 1.8G total... this matches the following:
/dev/mmc/blk0p2  1.8G 200.9M 1.66G 11% /data

So my questions are these:
1) What is stored in /datadata, and am I in danger of FC issues?
2) What is stored in /data... it looks like I have mad space

Like I stated earlier though, since flashing to #181 I've had no FC issues and have loaded my phone up with crappy apps.  (well not really, but some of them need to go.)

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For additional information that may or may not affect this, I am also running the Glitch v13 RC kernel

UPDATE: I had the issue (low space available) and I was able to confirm the >90% problem. However, it appears that the physical apps are stored in ...blk0p2 while the datadata (app data files) is stored in ...mtdblock6.

My assumption is that moving apps to the SD card will also move the cache as well. Is there an easy way to see what apps have the largest cache without having to select each one individually? Perhaps an App to do the work for me :)

Update2: I used 1-Tap cleaner to look at the data stored for all of my apps... what's confusing to me is that that number seems to only be 25-50 MB which is no where near to 90% of 172 MB. What else is stored in /datadata?

From a thread I was looking at earlier, I believe the CM7-Captivate devs moved dalvik cache to the data/data area.

#4 theyurtingyeti

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 02:53 AM

Thanks for all the info, scythekain... I saw similar issues on the 12/17 Kang release as I did #181. The Kang and #181 have been super stable with excellent battery life and minimal FCs.

What I've learned is that the data/data partition contains approx 120MB (70%) of 'system data' in addition to whatever the apps store. So when my 70ish apps stored approx 38MB of data (no app more than 3 MB) I got the low space warning.

If the dalvik is now stored in data/data, that could explain some of the system data. However, to me it seems that 70% of the allowable space dedicated to system data is a bit excessive. Now the developers obviously made these choices for good reasons as my phone performance has been stellar... but I'm curious if this is what the intended or if my phone has some other stuff stored there that shouldn't be.

I'll have to boot into recovery and see what clearing dalvik does to the system data stored...

#5 Cory Wilson

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 01:23 AM

So I've been running CM 7.1 Stable w/Glitch kernal for a month now, no major issues, and then just about a half hour ago, same problem.  I saw somewhere in this thread where it said to clear the cache so thats what I did, and its seemed to fix it.  Annoying though, nonetheless.  Why is this rom so buggy?

#6 omgitsoop

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:25 PM

Ive had this happen to me maybe 3 times now, its always fixed by clearing the cache in the browser, last time the cache was over 10mb, which doesnt seem bad but it fixes it so whatevs

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:25 PM

I actually just registered to post on this... I'm having the same force close issues.  It's getting to where the phone is unusable.  I'll try some of the suggestions and report back.